Even brief reflection on these two conversations should convince anyone that some significant things have changed. In upcoming chapters, I plan to describe and interact more fully with the perspectives of modern and postmodern epistemology, but even now we can note some basic things about each. Mo Joe is fairly clearly an atheist. As the discussion proceeds, it is also evident that his idea of God is that of the traditional Judeo-Christian God. However, it is also obvious that he believes that God